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« on: October 30, 2006, 05:37:54 PM »
this is an old debate but one worth having again i think, just to see what people think and to help set some guidelines for the APA and its members.

where do people stand on this?

in regards to the APA all people who do work for it as instructors are volunteers and DO NOT get paid. if we go out and help kids in the juvi centres the moeny goes to the APA. when we charge a group for a class the money goes to the APA.

but in my experience running the melbourne site, every now and then we get approached by people wanting tracuers for stunts. now thats a different kettle of fish. that is serious work, usually with a degree of risk involved. for myself i AM a stuntman, and so are a few other people that do parkour. if people ask the APA for individuals or groups for commercials o movies and such then i persoannly wouldnt expect people to give that money to the APA. though as with any 'agent' if i personally got work then id be happy to contribute to the APA for getting it for me.

that is my personal opinon, and not the stance of the APA. that has still to be decided.

i would propose that in such circumstances as people looking for stunts that any member of the APA can put themselves forward to be nominated for the work.

the idea being that if people wish to put themselves up for that kind of stuff, then they make a show reel of some description and submit it to the APA. whenever a persdon asks for people to do stunts then whoever they contact can then send them the appropriate showreels and the client can decide who they want. that way there is no favrotism, and everyone gets a chance. it would be based on your skills and what the client wants. (this is how it normally works in the industry anyway) any money made would be yours. if you should decide to contribute some to the APA for helping find the work then that would be nice but not mandatory.

also for parkour related stunt work you dont have to be qualified as a stuntman. you are classed as a specialist.

discuss. this is an opportunity for the community to help the APA decide on a policy and how it will conduct itself in a particular area!

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2006, 05:54:51 PM »
i think there could be a section on aparkour.com which is dedicated to this, then any prospective employers could go through profiles and showreels themselves and choose who they want.

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2006, 06:10:02 PM »
there are advantages to a middle man in case. middleman being the APA.


basically if these guys choose a group or person that doesnt known their worth or required safety etc. whereas some of us more experienced people can be a point of contact making sure people arent getting screwed, are covered for insurance etc.

for example there was a job a while back where they wanted us soing stuff onthe street. we found out we wouldnt be covered by insurance, se we changed the quote to add our own....little things like that can make a big difference. but it would be much as you say. plus also they usually want specific things (looks, ability etc) and we can save them having to trawl through heaps of stuff and just give them the relevant ones.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 12:53:35 AM »
Hehe, I made a similar suggestion on the topic of a Freerunning Association on the pkaus boards  :lol:
I reckon this would be a great idea!  Even though I myself am nowhere near a stuntman standard, those who are would most certainly benefit both from having a known point-of-contact/middleman for the film industry; and from the knowledge members already with industry experience can bestow.
If I had that many, I'd give this idea three thumbs up :lol: But Foamy wouldn't like that.

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 08:42:53 AM »
I believe that the association should receive some money for any work that is provided through it however the majority of money from stunt work would have to end up with the traceur.  The exact amount going to each place would have to be decided either by the individual or by a vote made by Aparkour members.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2006, 07:25:29 PM »
guess it isnt as contentious an issue as i thought...

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 11:27:52 AM »
maybe you would start more of a stir if you started throughing in numbers :)
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 07:35:27 PM »
I totally agree with you Chippa.


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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 08:12:49 PM »
My view is the following:

For pure APA work, like current weekend workshops, no money involved apart from 5 and 10 bucks to APA bank account.
Volunteer work.

For APA work for someone else who is paying (ie. workshops, classes, collaborations, spreading PARKOUR) APA gets all the money, and individuals get a standard "wage" or daily rate or something, to cover expenses like travel, time (however many dollars an hour) and food.

For non APA work (ie. commercials, stunts, choreography) that is sourced to individuals THROUGH the APA (so, someone contacts the APA and the APA send them the person's / people's details), APA gets an agent's fee of 10% for example, and the rest goes to the individuals.

For non APA work not sourced through the APA, obviously the APA gets nothing.

That seems fair to me at my current understanding of money and jobs and life.


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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 04:49:04 PM »
I feel as though I shouldnt be posting (not a member yet), but I reckon you are spot-on Djordje.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 06:34:08 PM »
I feel as though I shouldnt be posting

You shouldn't be posting because you're in a thread which is OVER A YEAR OLD. ::)
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 07:28:57 PM »
I see. whoops.
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